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Reporter: Jordan Fahnestock has taught history for 13 years. He says Christopher Columbus was taught as a heroic figure when he was in school. Although, he says he wasn’t surprised to hear of the soon removal of the Columbus statue in Syracuse.

Jordan Fahnestock: I don’t want to say that it’s gone so far the opposite direction that people are just gonna always paint him as the villain, but I definitely think that the door has been opened for a conversation that challenges him as the hero.

Reporter: Fahnestock says teachers can’t be hesitant to discuss the negative impact of European exploration. He also says the recent social justice movement amplifies this discussion.

Fahnestock: We have an obligation and a responsibility to be talking about those things, not ignoring them and painting this picture that’s not totally accurate.

Reporter: Along with class discussions, educators say that using resources beyond generic textbooks is also needed.

Fahnestock: I think the textbooks for a long time did a good job of hiding some of the ugliness of our history so to speak.

Reporter: Dr. Stephen Fleury says Columbus’ history should allow students to become more self aware. He also says this should challenge them to think about how history affects society daily.

Dr. Stephen Fleury: It’s a changing time. We have a new recognition of who we are as a collective body.

Reporter: Fleury says the soon removal of the Columbus statue is a move of a maturing community. He also says this decision causes the community to ask who they want to represent them. Reporting from Syracuse, Caleb Britt, N-C-C News.

SYRACUSE, N.Y. (NCC News) — Christopher Columbus and his history are topics Jordan Fahnestock, the Pulaski High School social studies chair, said teachers are ready for.

“I think the topic of Columbus has been changing,” Fahnestock said. “We’ve seen a shift with how Columbus has been viewed.”

Fahnestock teaches an advanced placement U.S. history course starting in 1492 where Columbus is discussed.

“I really challenge the kids to look at that because I think that they’ve probably been sheltered on some of that,” Fahnestock said.

Dr. Stephen Fleury, the education department chair at Le Moyne College, believes the backlash from the announcement of the Christopher Columbus statue being removed soon partly comes from people’s attachment to place.

“Whenever you go to move any kind of a monument like that it’s sort of like you’re trying to move a piece of someone’s life,” Fleury said.

On the other hand, Fleury believes that those who agreed with the removal of the statue probably based their decision on what they want in the future.

“It’s a future orientation about what do we want to impress upon our children, meaning our community’s children about ourselves and who we are,” Fleury said.

Fleury stated that the role of teachers is to get students to think about the meaning of statues, the meaning of communities getting involved in this issue and who is and isn’t included in decisions about this.

“Children are wonderful when you get them talking about this,” Fleury said. “How insightful they really can be.”

The Le Moyne College professor said this is a great time for history and social studies teachers to dig deeper and read more on Columbus’ history to prepare themselves for potentially tough conversations with students.

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